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Spilling It Episode 1- Art Rules and Studio Snacks
Shannon Moriarty: Hi, this is Shannon,
Sean Hildreth: And I'm Sean Spilling It is a podcast where people come and join us in a discussion about their life, the projects they're working on and everything else in between. This is a safe space where individuals can share what they are currently thinking and share genuinely what's been going on in their world. This podcast is for everyone, visual artists, writers, dancers, musicians or anyone who has never made anything before. Spilling it connects creative people together with the hopes of connecting to you.
SM: So I literally have this yellow with the Rainbow Shannon isms.
SH: Oh, I love this. Look at those.
SM: It's random. Kind of weird and I don't really know. What am I ask you? I wasn't really questions we got, but this yellow piece of paper feels and that's it, it feels that
SH: They feel it looks it looks important. It looks like a map. It honestly is the road map. Yeah. For this, let's go with that.
SM: I think I can deal with a question roadmap map, so I'm going to go with the one that's facing this way,
SH: Ok, deal.
SM: It's about art rules.
SH: Oh, God, art rules.
SM: What are the rules that you really respect and the ones that you just love breaking aren't rules.
SH: I honestly just instantly go to the ones that I break. I know I don't even I don't even I have to really think about the ones that I even respect. Which ones do you which ones are your faves to break?
SM: I, I love breaking this 60 on center. Ah yes. I love it. I love breaking the sixty on center art rule. I think that's really badass. I think it's also like. It's like air conditioning, you know, how, unlike corporate offices, air conditioning is like programmed to like boys like the 60s on center is like the boy rule. It's like we want to be able to feed this. So we're going to put this at my height. That is. I love breaking it.
SH: Yeah, that is so good. That's like that is such a great way to explain what that rule symbolizes.
SM: Oh, it's so good.
SH: It's also I just think it's more it's just instantly more interesting, personally speaking, when people break that rule. I just because it's just you're just you're just doing more with it, like you're asking more of the person who's engaging with it. So, like, I don't know if I if you're making me crawl on the ground and I got to, like, get eye level with the floor. Perfect. That's fantastic. You just got me to do yoga for the day that I love it. I think that's way better than doing the classic 60. I think for me, another one which isn't healthy for trying to make people, I guess, trust the sustainability of your work, but like right at right angles for canvas. I mean, I don't have to stick with that. I don't mind. I really don't care as long as it doesn't work. But like a little rhombus here and there. Fantastic. That's that's another one. You know,
SM: I think it's really funny that you were like, I don't know the art rules that I respect, I actually have to think about that one.
SH: I guess I feel like one that I I guess I respect inherently for some reason is when I'm using canvas, I use paint for the canvas. But like, I don't really have a good reasoning for that. I think it's just more like these were the patterns I was lulled into. I think that's something that I'm reflecting now with this question. Like, I really just use this material for this service.
SM: I'm like, are you one of my other questions of like, why paint?
SH: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, I love I love it. I mean, I always say that I would eat it if it wasn't toxic because that's how it just looks delicious. It's just this it's just this looks delicious. It looks delicious. It looks so good. It, you know, it's like this. It's like cake. It's like cake frosting. So I think I have always naturally really loved it and I like pushing it around. But I really do fall into a pattern of like I'm going to use my cake frosting and the cake clearly is going to be a canvas. That's the that's the batter that I've always have felt like I have to use. Do you have a rule that you're reflecting on as we're talking about this one?
SM: That. Like I respect?
SH: Yeah.
SM: I think when it comes to like rules like our rules, this is a terrible answer to the question, but respecting the kiln God's will. Yeah, I know it's heavy, but it's like you just gotta put trust in them that they know what's right, whether it's the peace doesn't get to survive or it looks really good or maybe it needs another go around through. It's like. I think that one of the articles that I respect is Trust the film Gods.
SH: I respect your respect for that rule. That's really that's a good one. I mean, coming from someone who has no clue how any of that works, just kind of gave me some like that gave me some like, ah, chills. Just like all respect the killing gods. Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
SM: Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at with that one.
SH: That's a good that's a good question, I want to reflect on that more, I think about that.
SM: That was one of the last ones I added to this very important yellow paper, this road map. And I could tell it was important because I left it on the side edge of it, trailing in the side edge of the paper, it's not in order any way, shape or form.
SH: I love that. You still know, though, which was last and which were for was what was an early one was an earlier one
SM: Was what are your studio snacks as he sips iced coffee, iced tea
SH: Like definitely coffee. I mean, it's not, as I said, just a beverage, but I mean, you got to have I got to have iced coffee. And then in terms of snacks, there's never been a
SM: Day that begins now
SH: In terms of snacks, in terms of snacks. I don't I don't know if there's a consistent one. I mean, all depends like back in the day in undergrad. It was a classic
SM: A long time ago.
SH: Eons ago, it would be it would be a Mountain Dew. And a bag of cheese its, and that's usually around 2:00 in the morning. Terrible, terrible health habits,
SM: A can of Mountain Dew or a bottle of wine
SH: And a bottle of Mountain Dew,
SM: A 2 liter or like a single serving.
SH: No single. Sorry, I'm not a monster
SM: That’s fine
SH: But yeah, I think that's when I think things stopped for me. Like, I don't have a consistent snack anymore. Just just the coffee, the coffees, my go to any time
SM: Of day in the studio
SH: With me, any time of day, a coffee is going to be there. I also do this thing where I really try to milk my drink. So, like, if I get this in the morning, I'll probably have this with me until 2:00 a.m. but it's the same coffee. It's a marathon with my drinks is kind of how I how I approach it. How about you? What are your what are your snack snack habits?
SM: When I was in the ceramics studio. It was kind of like anything that I can like. Mouth catch out of a cup, I know, because my hands are dirty like I'm not. I could eat dust. I'm just trying not to. So usually like popcorn with this one because you can easily, like, tip that back from a cup that's safe.
SH: That makes sense.
SM: Yeah. Or like coffee also. But coffee always like I'm always coughing. Yeah. If it's later at night and I'm like call it the creative bug. Like I'll probably be drinking something boozy.
SH: Oh yeah. Alcohol. Yeah that's good. That's great. Yeah, not in moderation, of course, in moderation.
SM: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just try to remember water. That's usually the hardest part for me, like in the studio, like, you know what? Maybe I should drink water,
SH: At least consistent snack is water for me. Water is the thing I never really keep track of.
SM: It's a process.
SH: I like to like the definition of tossed it back, snack the hand, the mouth, the mouth, throw in snack. That's smart.
SM: And that's a lot of fun because like in the ceramics studio, I feel like we share stuff. Yeah, like popcorn is an easily shareable studio snack. Like everybody can be cool on that, you know, especially like with people. I feel like we talk about food and vessels and like serving platters and like mugs and cups and handles all the time. So I think it's just obvious that in ceramic spaces, studio snacks are shared.
SH: Yeah, I love them. Yeah. It makes you want to take a ceramics class. I know.
SM: Fantastic.
SH: Yeah. Yep, OK.
SM: Thanks for joining us here in spelling it head on over to Instagram and Spillway Collective for some highlights from this episode or follow along by going to spillway collective dotcom. Hi, this is Shannon,
SH: And I'm Sean. So, yeah, is that do you want to jump in after I say after I say that? Do you want to do thanks for joining us for
SM: Making this so complicated.
SH: Yeah. So you take you take that. Thanks for joining us for another episode. So as soon as I'm done saying and I'm sure you can take the rest.
SM: So when you're going one to three, does that mean that's when you're going to talk?
SH: I've screwed that up. I'm not counting anymore. I don't know what that was supposed to represent. So I'm not I'm no longer using numbers.
SM: Ok. All right.
Sean Hildreth: And I'm Sean Spilling It is a podcast where people come and join us in a discussion about their life, the projects they're working on and everything else in between. This is a safe space where individuals can share what they are currently thinking and share genuinely what's been going on in their world. This podcast is for everyone, visual artists, writers, dancers, musicians or anyone who has never made anything before. Spilling it connects creative people together with the hopes of connecting to you.
SM: So I literally have this yellow with the Rainbow Shannon isms.
SH: Oh, I love this. Look at those.
SM: It's random. Kind of weird and I don't really know. What am I ask you? I wasn't really questions we got, but this yellow piece of paper feels and that's it, it feels that
SH: They feel it looks it looks important. It looks like a map. It honestly is the road map. Yeah. For this, let's go with that.
SM: I think I can deal with a question roadmap map, so I'm going to go with the one that's facing this way,
SH: Ok, deal.
SM: It's about art rules.
SH: Oh, God, art rules.
SM: What are the rules that you really respect and the ones that you just love breaking aren't rules.
SH: I honestly just instantly go to the ones that I break. I know I don't even I don't even I have to really think about the ones that I even respect. Which ones do you which ones are your faves to break?
SM: I, I love breaking this 60 on center. Ah yes. I love it. I love breaking the sixty on center art rule. I think that's really badass. I think it's also like. It's like air conditioning, you know, how, unlike corporate offices, air conditioning is like programmed to like boys like the 60s on center is like the boy rule. It's like we want to be able to feed this. So we're going to put this at my height. That is. I love breaking it.
SH: Yeah, that is so good. That's like that is such a great way to explain what that rule symbolizes.
SM: Oh, it's so good.
SH: It's also I just think it's more it's just instantly more interesting, personally speaking, when people break that rule. I just because it's just you're just you're just doing more with it, like you're asking more of the person who's engaging with it. So, like, I don't know if I if you're making me crawl on the ground and I got to, like, get eye level with the floor. Perfect. That's fantastic. You just got me to do yoga for the day that I love it. I think that's way better than doing the classic 60. I think for me, another one which isn't healthy for trying to make people, I guess, trust the sustainability of your work, but like right at right angles for canvas. I mean, I don't have to stick with that. I don't mind. I really don't care as long as it doesn't work. But like a little rhombus here and there. Fantastic. That's that's another one. You know,
SM: I think it's really funny that you were like, I don't know the art rules that I respect, I actually have to think about that one.
SH: I guess I feel like one that I I guess I respect inherently for some reason is when I'm using canvas, I use paint for the canvas. But like, I don't really have a good reasoning for that. I think it's just more like these were the patterns I was lulled into. I think that's something that I'm reflecting now with this question. Like, I really just use this material for this service.
SM: I'm like, are you one of my other questions of like, why paint?
SH: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, I love I love it. I mean, I always say that I would eat it if it wasn't toxic because that's how it just looks delicious. It's just this it's just this looks delicious. It looks delicious. It looks so good. It, you know, it's like this. It's like cake. It's like cake frosting. So I think I have always naturally really loved it and I like pushing it around. But I really do fall into a pattern of like I'm going to use my cake frosting and the cake clearly is going to be a canvas. That's the that's the batter that I've always have felt like I have to use. Do you have a rule that you're reflecting on as we're talking about this one?
SM: That. Like I respect?
SH: Yeah.
SM: I think when it comes to like rules like our rules, this is a terrible answer to the question, but respecting the kiln God's will. Yeah, I know it's heavy, but it's like you just gotta put trust in them that they know what's right, whether it's the peace doesn't get to survive or it looks really good or maybe it needs another go around through. It's like. I think that one of the articles that I respect is Trust the film Gods.
SH: I respect your respect for that rule. That's really that's a good one. I mean, coming from someone who has no clue how any of that works, just kind of gave me some like that gave me some like, ah, chills. Just like all respect the killing gods. Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
SM: Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at with that one.
SH: That's a good that's a good question, I want to reflect on that more, I think about that.
SM: That was one of the last ones I added to this very important yellow paper, this road map. And I could tell it was important because I left it on the side edge of it, trailing in the side edge of the paper, it's not in order any way, shape or form.
SH: I love that. You still know, though, which was last and which were for was what was an early one was an earlier one
SM: Was what are your studio snacks as he sips iced coffee, iced tea
SH: Like definitely coffee. I mean, it's not, as I said, just a beverage, but I mean, you got to have I got to have iced coffee. And then in terms of snacks, there's never been a
SM: Day that begins now
SH: In terms of snacks, in terms of snacks. I don't I don't know if there's a consistent one. I mean, all depends like back in the day in undergrad. It was a classic
SM: A long time ago.
SH: Eons ago, it would be it would be a Mountain Dew. And a bag of cheese its, and that's usually around 2:00 in the morning. Terrible, terrible health habits,
SM: A can of Mountain Dew or a bottle of wine
SH: And a bottle of Mountain Dew,
SM: A 2 liter or like a single serving.
SH: No single. Sorry, I'm not a monster
SM: That’s fine
SH: But yeah, I think that's when I think things stopped for me. Like, I don't have a consistent snack anymore. Just just the coffee, the coffees, my go to any time
SM: Of day in the studio
SH: With me, any time of day, a coffee is going to be there. I also do this thing where I really try to milk my drink. So, like, if I get this in the morning, I'll probably have this with me until 2:00 a.m. but it's the same coffee. It's a marathon with my drinks is kind of how I how I approach it. How about you? What are your what are your snack snack habits?
SM: When I was in the ceramics studio. It was kind of like anything that I can like. Mouth catch out of a cup, I know, because my hands are dirty like I'm not. I could eat dust. I'm just trying not to. So usually like popcorn with this one because you can easily, like, tip that back from a cup that's safe.
SH: That makes sense.
SM: Yeah. Or like coffee also. But coffee always like I'm always coughing. Yeah. If it's later at night and I'm like call it the creative bug. Like I'll probably be drinking something boozy.
SH: Oh yeah. Alcohol. Yeah that's good. That's great. Yeah, not in moderation, of course, in moderation.
SM: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just try to remember water. That's usually the hardest part for me, like in the studio, like, you know what? Maybe I should drink water,
SH: At least consistent snack is water for me. Water is the thing I never really keep track of.
SM: It's a process.
SH: I like to like the definition of tossed it back, snack the hand, the mouth, the mouth, throw in snack. That's smart.
SM: And that's a lot of fun because like in the ceramics studio, I feel like we share stuff. Yeah, like popcorn is an easily shareable studio snack. Like everybody can be cool on that, you know, especially like with people. I feel like we talk about food and vessels and like serving platters and like mugs and cups and handles all the time. So I think it's just obvious that in ceramic spaces, studio snacks are shared.
SH: Yeah, I love them. Yeah. It makes you want to take a ceramics class. I know.
SM: Fantastic.
SH: Yeah. Yep, OK.
SM: Thanks for joining us here in spelling it head on over to Instagram and Spillway Collective for some highlights from this episode or follow along by going to spillway collective dotcom. Hi, this is Shannon,
SH: And I'm Sean. So, yeah, is that do you want to jump in after I say after I say that? Do you want to do thanks for joining us for
SM: Making this so complicated.
SH: Yeah. So you take you take that. Thanks for joining us for another episode. So as soon as I'm done saying and I'm sure you can take the rest.
SM: So when you're going one to three, does that mean that's when you're going to talk?
SH: I've screwed that up. I'm not counting anymore. I don't know what that was supposed to represent. So I'm not I'm no longer using numbers.
SM: Ok. All right.